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congressman. and pat caddell, former pollster for jimmy carter. and doug schoen former pollster for bill clinton. doug, the numbers you saw on the screen, since the conventions, the president has gained four and romney has lost two, a swing of six points. >> that is where the race is. there are some polls in the swing states showing outsize leaps for obama the ink they are over sampling democrats and the mainstream media is away from what the race is. that is, a close contest. the president is about 48 or 49 percent approval and vote share. the governor's campaign has lost support. he is down around 43 percent. the 47 percent combined with the drift in the campaign has reduced his vote share, but it is still a a race, and the debate will be critical. >>gregg: this poll shows president obama at 49 and 44 and that can chain instantly. some of the media have written governor romney's obituary, this is premature. >> the media polls, the mainstream media uses the state polls like the new form of negative advertising. other negative campaigning against romney. the news organizations that are b

in the final gallup poll though narrowly lost. in 1980, jimmy carter had consistent advantage in the polls overarmed reagan but the final debate changed everything. polls showing a lead over romney in the key battleground states, democratic pollster who worked for jimmy carter said finding the right example can be tricky. >> we know from the exit polls and others that republicans tend to respond to the polls less than often times. from the news organizations. less than do democrats. >> in 1988, george bush managed a huge swing. dukakis was leading after the democratic convention but lost to bush. in 1992, the incumbent president was down nine points and died with bill clinton but october though clinton eventually won. former pollster questioning the assumption made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african-american, latino an young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> they said the public poll are varying in the sampling and methodology so it's hard to make the case when they point in one direction, they're all wrong. but we are plan

dynamic of the 1980 race in that jimmy carter was a stumbling ineffective president. >> reporter: fast forward to 1982. george h.w. bush was on the ropes over bill clinton when casper weinberger was imply indicated in the iran/contra scandal shortly before election day. bad news for bush that he did not need. in 2004 a classic october surprise. osama bin laden released a video on october 29th just four days before election day in a raz orthin race between president bush and john kerry. three years after 9/11 it served as a reminder of the terrorist threat and strategists in both parties believed helped president bush. more recently the term october surprise has come to mean a seismic event in the fall of an election year though most have centered around foreign policy others have been about the economy like in 2008. when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisers say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact it has to feed into a narrative that already exist, whether it's carter's ineffect

was coined in 1980 when some believe that jimmy carter was planning a last minute gear to secure the release of american hostages in iran. saying that they refused to free the hostages until after the presidential elections. in october 30 headline reading hostage debate postponed. in the end, the hostages were freed within minutes of ronald reagan's inauguration. in 1992 when an independent counsel announced the indictment questioning president george w. bush's role. he wound up losing that election to president clinton. eight years later, his son faces own october surprise. d been arrestede election day, for drunk driving decades earlier. despite the headlines, mr. bush took the oath of office the following january. joining me now is a great guest. he is the campaign manager for the gephardt for president campaign. and also ed rogers, chairman of the pgr group. he's he is a former deputy assistant to president george h. w. bush and served as senior deputy on the bush-quayle campaign. is it an october surprise? >> it certainly has been given to president obama. that he had said people who ki

won it was less than 1 percent. in 1976, jimmy carter had a 33-point lead over gerald ford. three debates, ford had cut the lead to 5 points and led in the final polls and narrowly lost. jamie carter had a consistent advantage over ronald reagan but the final presidential debate changed everything leading to a reagan landslide. now he is building a lead in key battleground states, a consultant who worked for jimmy carter, finding the right sample to survey can be tricky. >> we know from exit polls that republicans tend to respond to these polls less than oftentimes particularly to news organizations less than do democrats. >> reporter: in. >> julie: 8 there was a huge swing. dukakis lost to bush. in 1992 incumbent president was down nine points in mid-september and was tied with bill clinton by the end of october. the clinton eventually won. former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african-american, latino and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign

pollster for president jimmy carter. so fired up. what's that about? >> we are entering territory we have never entered before. we have had over the years the press being more and more biased. the gallup polls the highist has registered in people knowing they are not being told whole story. but we never had a situation where the press has purposely decided to pick up a narrative from the white house to support their overwhelming candidate for president barack obama. this isn't about partisanship. this is about danger. the won't first amendment exists without any checks and balances on the media is because they are supposed to protect the people. not that we are supposed to become a version of pravda. when the "new york times" takes two weeks to run anything on this subject. when we have 20 embassies on the assault after libya and no one runs it on the air in the major networks, we have a problem. megyn: david carr of the new york times wrote a piece, you have got the "wall street journal," you have got fox news, you have got online sources so the cries of media bias are not valid. if the

it probably isn't. if i'm president of the united states i don't do what jimmy carter says and call iran stability. the students were racing towards our -- >> isn't the larger issue rather than extracting what the president says during an interview and what the republican candidate's view on what he said, isn't the larger issue that both of these candidates have dismissed about obligation to the american people to talk to us. the president hasn't had a press conference. the president doesn't take serious questions from journalists. governor romney doesn't take serious questions from journalists. we don't have any specifics from governor romney or really the president. >> on this issue, though, i think it is a serious problem and the president just talks about bumps in the road in the middle east. jon meacham, there's chaos. you've got the leader of egypt who decides he has to wait a few days to protest riots in our embassy. you've got the muslim brotherhood seeming to gain traction there. let's hope it turns out well. you've got the president, i believe, making a terrible mistake questio

against the media jimmy carter. that's one important difference. the other part is despite the confusion, the distraction, it is up to governor romney to step forward and i mean galvanize the american public, the voting public. he can't do this by saying that we both care about the middle class. the fact of the matter is, the middle class has been torn to pieces. the republic party isn't acknowledging the social contract and the subcontracts that have been torn to pieces. >> bill: 5,000 in the median household. i would have a sign if i were romney just hold that up. you are getting hosed and this guy is doing it. >> romney doesn't even say you know, under george bush when this president is bashing bush, household income rose 18%. >> bill: in the 8 years he was in office. >> absolutely. now half of that has been torn away in three and a half years. >> bill: all right. you are going to make a prediction for me tonight. you think romney is going to do well on wednesday. >> i do think he is going to do well. >> are you rooting for romney by the way? >> at this point i can't bring myself to a

, basically cost jimmy carter the election. let's take a look at the gallup tracking poll. november, '79, carter was 38% at the end of the month, pob%, november, he plummeted to 31%. brad, we have an ambassador murdered, three americans killed. how would this impact, finally, do you think the campaign? will it have the lasting impact of the hostage crisis? >> certainly, this election first and foremost will turn on the disastrous performance on the economy. having said that, the president's strong point against mitt romney was foreign policy. i think we have seen that argument unravel that this president has been asleep at the switch. he has been incompetent and lied to the american people. he has let others lie. the president had superior knowledge and permitted his subordinates to make false statements. so i think foreign policy will be a key factor because it's the last debate before the election day. >> joe, last word? >> i think he makes a good point. i think the issue will turn on national security begins at home, our economy and job creation. 4 million jobs created after the first

ronald reagan did in his debate against jimmy carter. people don't remember all the facts and figures, the recitation of the facts and figures, they remember a significant line or a significant phrase that brings them back to reality. >> senator john mccain is the only man who has debated both of these individuals. he weighed in on the expectations this morning. take a listen. >> serve and provide us -- >> it's not just that they go bankrupt, he doesn't understand -- >> comments that grabbed everybody's attention. because frankly, the candidates are too well prepared. they're well scripted. >> what you did not hear the beginning there, is the senator said i think you're going to see more viewers, than any debate in history. and then he also said he can't remember the last time that any of these things affected the outcome of a presidential race. save 1960 and 2000, have the debates ever really impacted the outcome of a race, chris kofinis? >> it's funny, i hear the debate about debates not necessarily mattering. and i actually disagree with that i think the 1980, the reagan/carter deb

obama and jimmy carter, richard nixon, these are folks who get the ultimate prize but are fundamentally introverted personalities, right? president obama by no account would enjoy beingn a big, crd room unless it was with some distance. >> i think all presidential nominees have a genetic disorder. >> there is sort of -- >> it could be learned. >> but they're notike lenoetend. it is different. >> speaking of genes -- >> to me, it's a really interesting historical question why these folks choose this business and do pretty well but got the natural kind of tragic mit. >> yeah, itdoes sone w a tpo about the president not scheduling any meetings with foreign leaders? obviously the polar opposite of the guy we're interviewing next hour, bill clinton. >> well, you know, i think there are two possibilities. d i'm not sureuy either one. one is that it is strictly a political decision not to make news. but, you know, the other is that there's nothing to talk about. and clearly, there's a lot to talk about, right? with, you know, you couldal ov like the arab spring and afghanistan and this and tha

this blunder in his debate with georgia govern oor jimmy carter. >> there is no soviet domination of eastern europe and there never will be under a ford administration. >> i'm sorry, could i just -- >> the remark becomes a central theme in carter's campaign and is blamed by many for costing ford the election. in 1980, ronald reagan is repeatedly attacked by president carter for his stance on health care. >> governor reagan, as a matter of fact, began his political career campaigning around this nation against medicare. >> but reagan wins fans and the election by staying cool. >> there you go again. >> four years later, president reagan again uses humor to handle attacks on his age during his debate with walter mondale. >> i want you to know that also, i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> in the next election, democratic candidate michael dukakis is asked this controversial question in his debate with vice president george w. bush. >> governor, if kitty dukakis were raped and murdered, would yo

, iran, the hostage situation was fatally damaging to jimmy carter. but -- >> you can only make the case that really three presidential elections of the modern elections, the debates really played an important role. 1980 was one of those. >> 1960. >> 1960 and probably gerald ford's election where he said that the eastern europe was not -- or poland was not dominated by the soviet union, made some difference in a close election. but this is going to be a close election. in spite of what you see in some of the polls, some are close now, the fundamental dynamics of this race are quite close and so its could make a difference in this race. >> thank you so much. >>> up next, is iraq unraveling? a look at where the u.s. policy stands now, next on "andrea mitchell reports." we make a simple thing. a thing that helps you buy other things. but plenty of companies do that. so we make something else. we help make life a little easier, more convenient, more rewarding, more entertaining. year after year. it's the reason why we don't have customers. we have members. american express. welcome in. i've

that jimmy carter was a stumbling, ineffective president. >> reporter: fast forward to 1992. president george h.w. bush was already on the ropes against bill clinton over a sluggish economy, when casper wineberger, former president ronald reagan's defense secretary, was implicated in the iran contrascandal shortly before election day. bad news that bush, who served as reagan's vice president, did not need. in 2004, a classic october surprise. osama bin laden released a video on october 29th, just four days before election day in a razor-thin race between president bush and john kerry. three years after 9/11, it served as a reminder of the terrorist threat and strategists in both parties believed helped president bush. more recently the term october surprise has come to mean a seismic event in the fall of an election year. though most have centered around foreign policy, others have been about the economy, like in 2008. when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisors say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 1

carter. jimmy carter instructed him to vote for it. >> there have been at least one abberant presidential a election in which jews voted in a divergent way. do either of you think that we might see that kind of dip for 2012, or does president obama maintain the numbers on jewish voters? >> new york is a very important state. it is tough to say what will happen. i think that the president loses florida. >> is this a possible revisit and of 1980? -- revisiting of 1980? >> i think the president got the highest number of jews, the second-highest being 95% of all blacks. it's not hard to understand why. people, not only jews, we were so excited that we would have an african american candidate president in the white house. i think that that pride or sense of feeling isn't something that you can say based on our history and how it wipes out. wipes out. in terms of what we did, we now have come to the point where a black man or a black woman or any other group could achieve that. i think he will not get 78%. i believe the president is going to win and be reelected and i hope the jewish community

won by less than 1%. jimmy carter had a lead over gerald ford. after three debates ford cut the lead to five points and led in the final gallup poll and narrowly lost. the final presidential debate changed everything leading to a regan landslide. >> with polls now showing president obama building a lead over mitt romney in key battleground states a democratic pollster and consultant who worked for jimmy carter says finding the right sample to survey can be tricky. >> we know from the exit polls and others is that republicans tend to respond to the polls less than often times particularly from news organizations less than do democrats. >> reporter: in 1988, george bush managed a huge swing. gallup had michael dukakis leading by 17 points after the convention. the loss to bush by 7%. a former are clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african american, latino and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axel rod told fox "public polls are

ronald reagan take apart jimmy carter. now, with this caveat, president obama much quicker than jimmy carter. much. however, the way that reagan did it was authoritative, but kind of focusy. i don't know if romney can be folksy. but you got to be bold and fresh out there. but you got to do it with more of a twinkle in your eye than a malice. >> bill, look, why is "the o'reilly factor" and "fox & friends" popular? >> i don't show malice and i'll tell i couldn't. one of these crazy right wing talk show host social security off the air, i understand, savage, isn't he off the air? >> brian: i heard he's having trouble. >> because he's malicious. >> first of all, michael savage, you might not like him, he had millions of people -- >> he's malicious. that's what he is. if romney starts to do that, if people sense that -- >> we're not talking about -- >> i'm sorry, laura, you're wrong. if romney starts to do that without -- >> that's not what -- when has romney ever done that? >> come on, come on. >> you're creating paper tigers, bill. romney, i was in new york last week, and he performed be

romney still has a lot of time. reagan changed the entire trajectory of his race against jimmy carter because of the debates. >> he did. is romney like ronald reagan? >> i don't think people thought ronald reagan was the great mane was at that time either. megyn: we have seen mitt romney in 26 debates. >> i was covering the debate in which mitt romney manhandled newt gingrich in florida. he showed he was capable of doing it. he was totally capable of doing it. megyn: we talked about this earlier, chris. mitt romney did very well in that one debate against newt gingrich, then he fired that debate coach. >> debate coaches -- the -- what he has to do is attack president obama. don't worry when the punditry says it was too mean or shallow or short on specifics. they always say that. he's got to launch an attack on president obama. he has got to weather the storm when the press says, oh, you are doing it wrong, we don't like what you are doing. so romney has to attack, attack, attack, then use that time in front of those viewers to lay out three simple points about what he wants to do. hit

read the resolution to jimmy carter. jimmy carter instructed him to vote for it. >> there have been at least one abberant presidential a election in which jews voted in a divergent way. do either of you think that we might see that kind of dip for 2012, or does president obama maintain the numbers on jewish voters? >> new york is a very important state. it is tough to say what will happen. i think that the president loses florida. >> is this a possible revisit and of 1980? -- revisiting of 1980? >> i think the president got the highest number of jews, the second-highest being 95% of all blacks. it's not hard to understand why. people, not only jews, we were so excited that we would have an african american candidate president in the white house. i think that that pride or sense of feeling isn't something that you can say based on our history and how it wipes out. we now have come to the point where a black man or a black woman, or any other group could achieve that. i think he will not get 78%, but i think that the president is going to win and be reelected. it is part of that as op

covered it differently? >> right i'll go you one better. what if it were jimmy carter. it's as if you were living in two different worlds. i go to some of the other channels, mitt romney made another game changing gaffe today. we are living in different world it would be jimmy carter, they would be hiding a hostage crisis. we're going to talk about ronald reagan. msnbc, they converted the scott brown, our beloved scott brown versus elizabeth warren that she checked off falsely that she is cherokee. she has the lowest requirements of any professor of any of the top law schools. she refuses to release that information. everyone knows she stole someone else's. she is -- he is being attacked to raise the issue. he is attacking for her being a cherokee. no. it's exactly the opposite. it's about not being a cherokee and she is related not to cherokee but to a white enforcer to trail of tears. she is stealing the suffering of native americans to teach from harvard law school and you wouldn't know that from listening to msnbc. >> your book is you say, how liberals have played the race card histori

substantiative conversation with the iranian government since the jimmy carter administration. it is in our interest to talk to them. not because we like the government. we don't want. we want to see if there's a possibility to resolve this. high alert active police officers go to the the synagogues obama did nothing. and i think bush was there with fifty marines on the roofs in the meantime the people were killed. i heard bad information about the guy -- fbi agent who was tortured and other things happened to him. the bulk is on his hands. but the media doesn't think so. they protect him every time they can. i mean, who is supposed to stand up for the guys? you know what i'm saying? >> host: let's to go to nicholas burns. let's see how you think the administration handledded libya. >> guest: i have worked for republican and democratic administrations. i think it's unfair to level such a criticism in president obama. he has been a very strong leader on protecting this country as president bush was. and i think both presidents, since 9/11, have put security of the american people, our homela

basically, killing an american ambassador for the first time since, who? jimmy carter. >> steve: that's right. >> brian: he's get to go look a lot like him. >> gretchen: it was described as a bump in the road, as well as the arab spring. then he sent his spokesperson out to actually call it a terrorist attack. the president himself, interestingly enough, has not used the word, terror. >> oh, my goodness. >> gretchen: is it a deliberate strategy to have it both ways? >> of course it is. it's also a president who has been you've missile insist about terrorism from the very beginning. he said we're not going to say war on terror anymore. except he forgot to tell them they're at war with us. so we get caught by surprise. this is a major scandal. the only reason it isn't played as a major scandal the president has three quarters of the media in the tank. it's a disgrace. it should be a scandal for the washington times, nbc news, cbs news, why the hell aren't they covering it? u.n. ambassador went on television, i went on with her on cnn. i've never heard an ambassador say anything so stupi

bill clinton is doing around the world, what jimmy carter is doing with habitat for humanity. but i just kept can't remember exactly what he has or any other past republican president i've been doing for people, so i think although i would like to see divided government, but i would a democrat in the white house. host: all right. we've got an editorial, or op-ed, rather, from "the new york post" this morning, barack obama, slacker in chief. he writes -- host: you can read more of that in this morning's "new york post" at newyorkpost.com. pam is our next caller. she's on our democrats line, calling from iowa this morning. go ahead, pam. pam, are you there? caller: hello? host: hello. caller: hello. host: hello. caller: hello. host: pam, go ahead. caller: i believe in a two-party system. i believe that the biggest problem right now is priorities and the ability to shell things, and there should be some sort of implementation of appropriate priorities. that way they can't sit there and do, you know, we're going to do abortion, we're going to do contraception. they can't just feed off a

with ronald reagan and in 1980 with ronald reagan and jimmy carter where there really was a md change. atjoaderce to t's also rbe john kerry in 2004, he moved the needle, but he didn't move the needle nearly far enough. and the fact is that in 18 of the last 19 presidential elections whosever been leading at this point has led the populate >>em h c kerry came, if he had won a small number in ohio, he would have been president. >> i understand that. >> and also if he had gnat gone windsurfing in nantucket. willie, the thing is we tal rend meoe in the eo, i'm heari romney campaign as every day goes by, they understand more and more that they made a huge mistake with that libyan press conference. i'm not going to say that it was sort of that september 15th moment, the econo is sod, bun mn last time, but i can't tell you how many pollsters are telling me that that was -- it made him look unpresidential. "the wall street journal" leading with their editorial today, "the libya debacle." ng, mot looks likeding outbo a gross security failure. and you know, something the romney campaign told m

freeing the hostages. >> it fed into the whole dynamic of the 1980 race in the sense that jimmy carter was a stumbling, ineffective president. >> reporter: fast forward to 1992. president george h.w. bush was already on the ropes against bill clinton over a sluggish economy. when casper weinberger was implicated in the iran-contra scandal shortly before election day. bad news that bush, who served as reagan's vice president, did not need. in 2004, a classic october surprise. osama bin laden released a video on october 29th, just four days before election day, in a razor thing race between president bush and john kerry. three years after 9/11, it served as a reminder of the terrorist threat and strategists in both parties believe had helped president bush. more recently, the term october surprise has come to mean a seismic event in the fall of an election year. most have centered around foreign policy, others have been about the economy, like in 2008. when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisers say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order f

call for sacrifice was ridiculed for it. that president, jimmy carter suggested only that we turn down our thermostats a tad and guzzle a bit less gas. then came ronald reagan who's man great contributions to america were coupled with less great ones, including idea, which has dominate ourd political discourse ever since, that we should speak only of morning in mark and that optimism, like virtue, is its own rewar. it isn't, not if it's crowds out realism. >> let's not read the whole article. you talked to erskine bowles? >> about this? >> i'm saying we talked to him. you talked to erskine bowles, bill clinton's former chief of staff who's in the debt commission. he's scared. he's scared to death. >> about the things we can't say. >> about the fiscal cliff. what we can't say about taxes, what we can't say about cutting the taxes, what we can't say about medicate. >> you can't tell voters they're going to feel pain for anything. >> either side. >> we're not talked to as adults. we're talked to as children, which is our own fault because that's what we've shown here. when you listen to b

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